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Saar Drimer

Stuart,
If you read the book, this will be all known to you. But the following might be usful for your readers:
Thomas L. Friedman on NPR April 14th.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4600258

praktike

well, barnett cites friedman quite often, so there's no revelation here.

Stuart Berman

What is remarkable is how similar Friedman is now to Barnett, not the other way around...

Freeman

Stuart,

I am worried about the globalization in its current form, although I am one its beneficiaries. Many discussion on Globalization benefits is based on the assumptions like "China needs us as a trade partner. They are not crazy to mess with their biggest goods importer." They also mention the Marshall Plan, ...

Well, these assuimptions have shown their flaws through the history. I wonder why no-one recalls US buissiness supplying the German economy in 1930s. It is interesting to seee that many believed that such trades would put a leash on Hitler. I bet they also thought that "After all, he is not crazy to blow all this up"

I love Capitalism, but I believe that one shall play a game only with people who agree on the rules of that game. China can not call itself a communist nation and still benefits from the capitalism. Tian An Men was just 15 years ago. The question is, can we trust Chininese Communist Party?

My answer is "In the short run, yes. But as soon as they have a more powerfull army than US (very near future), the answer is No."
I have to note that, there is absoloutly no correlation between pacifism and economic growth. Japan (before WWII) is another good example (you know the story).

Stuart Berman

Freeman,

This is a great distinction that Barnett offers in the Pentagon's New Map (and I would imagine in his new book as well). Barnett describes several recent eras of globalization (unlike Friedman) including an era that ended around World War I (see http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/storyboard/sb_newrulesets.htm). Instead of seeing trade with Nazi Germany as reducing the likelihood of war (or trade with Saddam's Iraq) consider that the economic destruction of Germany in World War I as creating a 'Gap' nation that was destined for war. Had Germany embraced freedom and democracy the likelihood of war despite its economic condition would have been minimized.

Barnett says that encouraging freedom and democratization is essential (an evolutionary process for China which is not guaranteed). He would also say that China will not want to build up their military to our level (witness the result to the USSR with the arms race) unless we threaten them enough.

Because of these details, I believe that Friedman's message is suited to general discussions with the public and not at the policy level.

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