My last post ended with a comparison of liberal and conservative which some people compare to good or evil. This is just as erroneous as making that comparison to peace and violence or life and death. I like the inspired definition in Toward a Meaningful Life (wisdom of the former Rebbe of Chabad) that describes evil as selfishness and good as selflessness which puts the determination on intent of action. This means things can't be evil (a knife can be used for good or evil) nor can generic actions (like killing during war) be evil. In fact if I give to charity so that I can benefit then that is evil. If I went to war to free the oppressed then my action is good. So too anger and death and other 'negative' attributes may be good.
The optimism of Rebbe Schneerson's outlook is refreshing:
Goodness is a natural state of the world... All of man's good works throughout the ages are building blocks, leading up to a final triumph of goodness in the world. Moral relapses are not flaws, but by-products of this process. It is to be expected that when the forces of goodness show strength, the forces from where evil originates will endeavor to retaliate, and that they will make their final stand just on the verge of their total collapse.
Sounds like the situation in Iraq. Over at Iraq the Model you could witness the confusion as to why the US is there. Is it to subjugate the people or are we doing this out of the goodness of our hearts? I know of plenty of troops that are there because they believe they are doing good.
Unlike Darth Vader's convictions (kids are really into Star Wars right now) the dark side is not more powerful than the light side. Turn on the light and the darkness is vanquished, goodness is divine with the power that is inherent whereas darkness is simply the absence of light (all ego no real power). Goodness requires both thought and action which results in spiritual growth.



So sorry for not visiting my blog buddies lately - been so darned busy promoting the book.
I love that last paragraph - so true!
Hope you have a terrific day!
Posted by: Marti | August 17, 2006 at 01:34 PM
So the free market is evil because, regardless of final result, it relies on selfishness to function?
Posted by: Dan tdaxp | August 19, 2006 at 04:15 PM
No the free market is not evil because it is a thing. Neither is self-interest which is markedly different than selfishness. Seeking success is noble until it sacrifices your soul.
Posted by: Stu | August 19, 2006 at 10:29 PM
in the Judeo-Christian tradition, there is no dualistic/light-dark/yin-yang relationship. good kicks evil. God created Satan. Satan is a much lower being than God, striving for what some have called not a force in itself (evil), but only an absence (of good). in Martin Luther's words: 'Satan is God's devil.'
let me push my buddy, Dan, a little bit. the free market is based on selfishness, yes, which we can count on far more than altruism. trusting in the sin of people is wise. hoping for better is optimism. love is the higher way.
Star Wars and kids tangent: when i started watching Star Wars with the twins (mostly Wil, my son), almost two years ago, we tried to explain why Anakin went to the Dark Side and ended up at the explanation 'because he listened to his feelings too much'. this correlated with another teaching my kids had taken in about 'letting go of anger'. a correlation with that was 'or you become a bad guy'. please cut me some slack on these simplifications. we were working with 5 yos within a very particular context.
Posted by: Sean Meade | August 22, 2006 at 09:35 AM
Sean - so it sounds like we agree...
I equate selfishness in an extreme manner of egotism. Free markets function based on greed but most of us draw the line at some form of morality - in the West often based upon biblical (Judeo-Christian) precepts. We might want a better deal than the next guy but we aren't prepared to run him down with our car to get it. Our natural state is somewhere between good and evil. The 'saint' gives where not required, the 'sinner' takes where not lawful.
Good advice about Star Wars - we just received Episode II in the mail. Even though my kids (5 & 8) haven't seen it yet they seem to already know the story. Earlier episodes have also evoked a lot of serious discussion along with some tears (the whole 'Luke I am your father' notion). It is a great way to show that people aren't necessarily good or bad but shift between the extremes.
Posted by: Stu | August 22, 2006 at 11:22 PM
My knowledge of the Old Testament is shakier, but there is nothing in the New Tesatement against accmulation. 1 Corithians 9:24, for example
"Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize."
The three elements of Christianity are Love, Faith, and Hope -- selflessness do not make the cut.
Rather, Christianity urges its followers to align their will with God's, so that one's selfish interests coincide with God's plans.
The Catholic Church outlined her views on capitalism in Rerum Novarum.
Much of what is called "selfishnes" is actually an empty version of altruism -- the belief that if one acquires something with /social value/, one is somehow a better person for it. Misers are thus keenly aware of the selfish will, and are more socitist than egoist. Egotism is a funhouse-mirror version of selfishness, where a concern for one's self is replaced by a concern by what others can measure of one's self.
Posted by: Dan tdaxp | September 04, 2006 at 04:26 PM
Dan - I have to question your comment about selflessness...
I consider love to be the embodiment of selflessness - and from what I understand love trumps even faith and hope.
I would love to hear your reader's digest version of Rerum Novarum - since aside from the length I doubt I really appreciate the context.
As far as my perspective on over focusing on success - it seems that Jesus is clear in Mark 8:36 - "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gains the whole world, and lose his own soul?" I don't see this an indictment of profit but of a loss of balance.
Along a similar note Matthew 6:23 "But if your eye is evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness." (an "evil eye" being an obvious Jewish reference to miserliness in Proverbs 28:22 - "He that hastens to be rich has an evil eye, and does not consider that poverty shall come upon him.")
A [Christian] friend sent me an e-mail after reading this blog with these references as well:
Matthew 19:23 Jesus said to his disciples, "Most certainly I say to you, a rich man will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven with difficulty.
Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God."
1 Cor 13:1-8 If I spoke human and angel languages but had no love, I would only be making noise... If I had the gift of prophecy and knew all secrets, if I had knowledge about everything and even if I had the gift of faith so that I could make mountains move, I would still be worth nothing at all having no love. And if I gave everything I have to poor people and my body to be burned but didn't love others, it would be of no value whatever. Love is very patient, full of mercy and free of jealousy, envy, conceit and pride, never _selfish_ or rude. It is not irritable or touchy, never glad about injustice but shares rejoicing in truth. Love is always loyal, believing, full of hope and capable of enduring everything. Love never disappears even though prophecies will come to an end and tongues will stop speaking...
I Cor 10:24 Don't seek things for yourself only, but each of you seek things for the benefit of others.
Posted by: Stu | September 17, 2006 at 11:24 PM
RN is simultaneously an attack on socialism and capitalism. Much of JP2's economic philosophy is exactly in line with it. God created property and wealth, and it is right for people to have both, but neither are ends in themselves,
The Church agrees with socialists, Marxists, and capitalisms when they treat Man as an end. It disagrees with them when they treat Man as a means.
Sadly, in our fallen state we are faced with limits. Thus our treatment of fellow humans as means is as much a symptom of our original sin as it is a new one.
Posted by: dan tdaxp | April 01, 2007 at 03:37 PM
Thanks for the explanation, Dan, it makes a lot of sense.
Posted by: Stu | April 03, 2007 at 06:04 PM